Dec 11 2010

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Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:42 am

Dr. Pullen brings to light an important issue of compensation disparities. It’s not simply a matter of whether doctors deserve their current By using Office 2010 Professional, you can save your money and time.

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Given that the number of medical students entering the field of primary care is rapidly declining, how do we reverse the trend? As Dr. Pullen

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programs. Research regarding the role of PCPs

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Dec 11 2010

How Can We Encourage Medical Students to Choose Primary Care?<13>

Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:42 am

Gee Rbar, it is so black and white to you, isn’t it? The Doctor who only sees 30 pts, because he gets the pool who are sicker and need more

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advocate for the public really has been sold out, eh!?!?

I am not a business man, and maybe this analogy is too simplistic, but, if you are spending your money on widgets and the ones that are more

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in this day and age, it is about numbers, simple and clear. Dump the old ones and make twice as many new ones, even if the plant is

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You misunderstood, my exhausted colleague. When I refer to productivity comparisons, I am talking about docs seeing patients out of the same

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understand is NOT applicable to the health care

model, was fairly simple for the physician, until doctors stupidly allowed this model to perverse the system as cancer does: when it comes

down to making a buck versus spending the extra income flow to hopefully make a difference in health care outcomes, the buck wins. For the

doctor, it was investing into more health care interventions that makes the doctor more effective, even if it does not fatten the wallet.

Being seen as a leader and advocate for the public really has been sold out, eh!?!?”The invention of Microsoft Office 2010 is a big change of the world.

I am really interested, please explain.


Dec 11 2010

How Can We Encourage Medical Students to Choose Primary Care?<12>

Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:41 am

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aggressive but ineffective in protecting its members. Each in turn has had its ox gored.

As long as you fixate on cost rather than demand you will fail to reform anything.

IMHO, there is nothing wrong with your suggestion, but it’s no huge improvement to salary either. It is very easy to inflate the time spent

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course it is much easier to see 50% of

patients than average, and claim that one is super thorough (and some slow docs are super thorough, but the question is, do they have

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some physicians procrastinating, and then produce/worsen access problems.

When we are talking about salaried docs at MSGs, this does not means “salary for a warm body” only, but salary for a reasonable

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Dec 11 2010

How Can We Encourage Medical Students to Choose Primary Care?<11>

Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:39 am

I am no MD and no Hell either, but I’d like a stab at this.

If patients are so misinformed, and they probably are, then having them pay out of pocket is guaranteed to create lots of bad choices, and we

know that folks without discretionary income do forgo both needed and unneeded care. So this option is not a good option, unless maybe you

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This is not the same as salaried. You can be in private practice and you can negotiate your rates with payers, and large differences in

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for PCPs as payers struggle to ensure their customers have access to primary care, which was shown to reduce costs overall.

Such system can be gamed and it too has weaknesses, but it seems easier to control, less expensive, less stressful for docs and definitely

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The sheer scarcity of PCPs will give rise to the army of NPs and PAs. NPs in particular can be regimented because of their nursing

background. There will be no more PCPs for the same money as specialists. The reason they are paid a lot is because they must be right and

perform flawlessly in elective situations. They must invest more time in training and must assume greater liability.

Primary care requires different skills than those of a neurosurgeon or a pathologist. It is more time intensive in terms of patient contact

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Dec 11 2010

How Can We Encourage Medical Students to Choose Primary Care?<10>

Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:38 am

Not too many people are clamoring for a spinal tap for their headache. Try selling one after a negative CT scan. If the patient will let you

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not do it, even though the indications are the same. You cannot force them, at least not yet. I would never want that power. So if the Office 2010 –save your time and save your money.

patient clamors for a CT scan, which is relatively not indicated in the docs opinion, but then refuses the spinal tap, which is technically

the standard of care, is it because of bad medicine or insurmountable misconceptions on the patient’s part regarding the utility of CT?

My ethics are just fine.

You write: “Increasing primary care compensation a little, and decreasing specialist pay a lot, to Outlook 2010 is powerful.

bring them close to equal, would go a long

ways towards making primary care training more popular.”

Bravo. Money is relative. Median pay for PCPs is now $175,000. Most would feel well paid if Windows 7 is convenient and helpful!

they weren’t comparing themsleves to peers who

are dermatologists earnign $400,000.

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that working for $175,000, they are being asked to work for “slave wages.”?

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I think we went too far from my main point, which you apparently disagree with. That main point is: if there is strong financial incentives

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tests medical benefit. There is ample

empiric evidence for that. Diagnostic overkill is part of our rising health care costs. That’s why I am concerned (rather than paranoid)

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choice. Or do you have a different idea?


Dec 11 2010

How Can We Encourage Medical Students to Choose Primary Care?<9>

Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:37 am

If a specialist is sent a patient for an opinion, he will do a diagnostic procedure as part of his eval. If the primary care doc had any

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pace. But the specialist cannot skip

the test; it also is “standard of care”.

Your paranoia over unnecessary procedures is striking. Only the patient can decide if it is necessary. Physicians are in the advice business

and offer an opportunity to the patient for recommended care. A smart patient will get more than one opinion. But insurance does not always

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Do you want that to change?

Each insurance company puts docs through their own credentialling process to allow the doc to care for the beneficiaries of the company.

Board certification also is intended to assure that docs are capable and current. If some are unethical that is a problem, but hardly the

norm.

In this debate you must in the end choose someone to believe and trust. Do you want to trust a Maggie or a Lambert with your health?

You are right. It is not hard at all.

“Your paranoia over unnecessary procedures is striking. Only the patient can decide if it is The invention of Microsoft Office 2010 is a big change of the world.

necessary. Physicians are in the advice business

and offer an opportunity to the patient for recommended care. A smart patient will get more than one opinion. But insurance does not always

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I am sorry, hellMD, but I find your medical ethics bizarre. Performing medical tests/procedures depend on medical necessity, not on patient

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“But the specialist cannot skip the test; it also is “standard of care”.” Uhhmmm, that depends on the situation at hand. Also note that I

specifically wrote that this issue needs to be adressed.

I wrote “The FINAL indication for any procedure is the patient is willing to undergo it.” Emphasis added for clarity.

It is not only by demand, although I have people demand a CT scan for their child’s head bonk or an MRI for their headache of brief duration. Office 2010 download is available now!

Try telling a determined mother “no” on the CT scan. Try telling a mother “no” on a CT scan for her child’s abdomenal pain. It is not always

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Try not getting C spine xrays for a patient with neck pain after a car wreck. Try not getting a CT scan on an old person from a nursing home

who fell, bonked their head, and is on coumadin but acting just fine.


Dec 11 2010

How Can We Encourage Medical Students to Choose Primary Care?<8>

Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:37 am

“Why can’t we have common sense in Health care???” As said above by Private Citizen. Well, depending on who’s aspect and definition of

‘common sense’, some say it is in place and others say otherwise.

You gotta love the commenters here who champion we physicians should take a vow of poverty Outlook 2010 is powerful.

and then thank these cold heartless bastards for

the opportunity to be screwed. And they will just keep on the senseless and clueless banter their perspective is the only righteous and

reasonable one, yet, my money is that most if not all the doctor-bashers have never spent a moment, much less a year providing any form of Microsoft outlook is great!

health care as a provider. But, hey, the business model is the only one that fits, eh, you bastards!?

We realistic and grounded providers know who and what you are after, and any real objective and unbiased readers, read between the lines of Windows 7 is convenient and helpful!

these inane and heartless spews of expecting doctors to lose money and have less impact on health care choices, because, it means more money

for those who really contribute nothing to the patient-physician relationship in the end.

The biggest mistake DOCTORS made back in the 1970’s-’80’s was letting health care become a real money making machine and not stepping in Microsoft Office is so great!

front of the greedy non clinicians who just saw another industry to screw.

Well, last I checked, we still can step up! Or, are most of my colleagues hopeless cripples!?

If your assertion that more patients are misinformed than properly informed is true (which it isn’t), then either you are saying that nothing

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low salary from the government and do little or nothing at all (as is true of most government employees) because it is safer and better for

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If I do ten rectal exams for #150 charge each, five would never pay, 2 would be Medicare and I would get $8, one would be Medicaid and I

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the incentive?


Dec 11 2010

How Can We Encourage Medical Students to Choose Primary Care?<7>

Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:36 am

Really enjoyed your wishful thinking regarding the marketplace if functioning well would correct any inequities. Smith who broght us free

market principles states for a market to work, must have many attributes but the one that will Office 2010 –save your time and save your money.

never be accomplished in medicine is the

asymmetry of product knowledge. The purchaser (consumer) today and perhaps decades to come has no tools to judge value (quality and cost).

Many consumers judge by family referrals or bedside manner–trusted outcomes data transparent and validated to Americans may never come for Microsoft Office is so great!

the most complex profession in the world. So, throw away your Utopian answer for something more realistic and achievable.

Secondly, most health plans are shadowing (following the lead) of Medicare in Policy and payment methodologies since it is considered the

“Gold Standard.” Some courts even now have stated if you don’t accept rates at Medicare levels you are price fixing. It makes my head spin. The invention of Microsoft Office 2010 is a big change of the world.

But it is what it is and the profession has done a terrible job of educating the population re: our profession. The “market” rewards

herbalists, Chiropractors (yes, many are good back manipulators–), and fortune tellers many times better than a 11+ year higher educated Windows 7 is convenient and helpful!

physician, we know then that the market is clueless re: value. This asymmetry of knowledge will long persist. We have allowed it to happen.

Look in the mirror…………

yk, I agree with you that FP still will make a good living, even after a 20% cut. And yet, there is no doubt that, while all physicians are

at least reasonably well compensated, some physicians in private practice make a fortune. And unfortunately, this works often to the direct

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because medicare overpays for it, you get

surging rates for this procedure, with overall worsening outcomes (I lost the link but can look for it if someone is interested). MD as hell,

is this complicated to understand? If you pay per procedure and have misinformed patients (as is rather the rule than the exception in the

US), you will get more improper procedures, worse outcomes and waste of ressources. I know that things might look different in your ER

setting. But if you got paid, say, 150 Dollar extra for any rectal exam, guess what would happen …

Thank you for this post. I really don’t understand why a primary care doctor who coordinates so Outlook 2010 is powerful.

much should be penalized, doctors don’t need

to become business people to earn better, they need to do the right thing to earn better. There some doctors who push patients to be seen

every month evn for routine refills. Their secretary bugs the patients for follow ups that are not needed. I really would like a place where

the doctor does what is right and has no incentive to do more. Every speciality is unique, why shoould there be so much income gap for 2-3 Microsoft outlook is great!

extra years??? Why can’t we have common sense in Health care???


Dec 11 2010

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Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:32 am

2. Hold them accountable to be “Holistic” (hate the word)–broader scope–use their talents to the extent of their education, competence, and

comfort.

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considered less than equals to specialists–

yes, it is the elephant on the table.

4. It is not CMS who is generating imbalanced RVUs–it all comes from the AMA dominated by Microsoft Office is so great!

specialty societies. Must find some way to

establish parity. The dirty little secret.

5. Rethink the gatekeeper model and medical home for efficient care–even in a FFS world. Without it, it is a free-for-all for patients, e.g.

Medicare traditional.

6. Educate the populace re: the role of PCPs and the extent of their knowledge/education–influence their expectations of PCPs–not just

poorly educated docs there to triage to specialists.

I became an internist/geriatrician in the 70’s because I liked to solve problems and have a long The invention of Microsoft Office 2010 is a big change of the world.

longitudinal relationship with patients. I

thought I would do “OK” financially-but it was not a core value for me. I did this out of interest not intellect. I could have been any

specialist if I desired. There are too many barriers for students today to seriously look at being a PCP unless we work on the above and

additional barriers + issues of adequate compensation. RobMDWindows 7 is convenient and helpful!

The Neanderthals who run our health system ought to spend one year as a first year med student, then 3 mos as an intern with every other to

1:4 before they have any responsibility. In addition we (or they) should find a way to keep actively practicing physicians practicing rather Outlook 2010 is powerful.

than retiring at age 50-65 when they are physically and mentally still fit. The investment in pcp’s is too great (by the feds who directly or

indirectly finance medical education (grants, loans, med school subsidies, etc, etc.) to increase the ROI. It is far cheaper to keep those in

the system working than to train additonal PCPs.Microsoft outlook is great!

Malpractice is a big issue which keeps older MDs from extending work to part time as they age.

Reduce or eliminate licensing fees for MDs over 60 or a modified rate for those working part-time. Academies should redce or eliminate dues,

fees, CME fees for docs over age 60.


Dec 11 2010

How Can We Encourage Medical Students to Choose Primary Care?<5>

Category: NEWSadmin @ 7:31 am

I agree with ‘yk’. I am a family physician and I don’t see anything wrong with what other specialties make. They take more risk and were in

residency/fellowship much longer than myself. They deserve every penny. It seems to me Dr. Pullen you are what they call a ‘hater’.

Be happy with your choice, as i am, and stop being jealous of your neighbor. They worked harder Microsoft Office is so great!

and longer.

This is an example of where market economics has been tampered with to such a point that prices do not accurately reflect supply and demand.

What I did not see in the article was the total number of primary care physicians, or “Family Doctors” in practice (supply). We see,

according to the trend, a reduction in the number of M.D.s entering the practice, but no mention of the total number of the supply of M.D.s Office 2010 –save your time and save your money.

in family medicine. I may have missed it.

Insurance companies (via contract vehicles) and the ubiquitous Federal Government via HHS and CMS (via regulations and requirements) have

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sectors. Ideally, if there were a shortage of primary care physicians then the prices would reflect that shortage. If the article is to be

believed, then the influx of additional practitioners of a particular specialty should increase the The invention of Microsoft Office 2010 is a big change of the world.

supply and decrease the average price. It

gets too difficult to discuss in a single post how experience differentiates one MD from another and the effect on the market price (presumed

effect).

All of this to say that a well functioning medical services marketplace would correct the “pay” disparities gradually and in a natural

fashion. Which allows the market to absorb and process the changes much better than the quick Outlook 2010 is powerful.

and artificial adjustments made by a government

or other regulatory (public or private) instrument. Remove the market regulations, and allow the products/services to be distributed through

a more natural supply/demand model.

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considering debt and years of education and

responsibilities. But bringing more students into Primary care requires more than additional money that is required to pay off the cost of

today’s education. What else must we do?Microsoft outlook 2010 is convenient!

1. Emphasize during medical school the critical nature of primary care and the expanded role we wish of them in a better healthcare delivery

systemWindows 7 is convenient and helpful!


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